BU vs. Duke, BU's all time best vs. Duke's, more MVC stuff, and the government compromises??

A full week ago I posed a question about the players that come from Duke...
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16966

I asked -- who are the players from Duke who have had the best NBA careers..
and oddly...the thread went on for numerous other responses, and yet, despite an incredibly weak attempt by a Duke poster to argue that there are such great NBA-career players, and even failing in his argument that none of Duke's players in the NBA recently were early departures..
.....the thread finally ends with essentially NO answer to the original question.

Every top school puts bunches of players in the NBA...
UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina...and there are BIG TIME players and scorers among all those great NBA'ers...and every top school has Hall of Famers as well....
but does Duke???? Good question........some may be surprised!

I find the lack of any answer amazing....every topic/question posed on the message board gets dozens of answers and responses, but this question, despite the following banter, goes essentially unanswered.

That appears to be because the Duke players really just DON'T go on to much success at the enxt level. How come?? Could it be that Coach K gets the best out of his great players and turns them into great team players but ruins their individual skills and abilities?
You decide....but face it...Duke lands as many Blue Chippers, top prospects, Top 25 ranked, 5-Star, McDonald's All Americans as anyone.
So how come among those tremendous players that go to Duke, the only ones who have had much NBA success at all are the very few who got out early, and even then, they often faltered and flopped at the next level.

Here's a comparison...the top NBA scorers from BOTH Duke & Bradley...
and admittedly Duke has more in the 10000+ range, but the guys from Bradley are better scorers in the NBA than the Duke guys!
BU's top two guys combine for 33299 total points, Duke's top two only 27596.

Duke-
Grant Hill 14579
Jeff Mullins 13017
Elton Brand 12852
Jack Marin 12541
Luol Deng 11131
Christian Laettner 11121
Mike Gminski 10953
Corey Maggette 10431
Johnny Dawkins 5984 and he was maybe their best all-around player ever!!
Their all time scorer at Duke, JJ Redick, has 774 career points in the NBA

Bradley-
Chet Walker 18831
Hersey Hawkins (BU's all time scoring leader) 14468 points in the NBA!
Danny Granger 5500+ and probably will end his career in the 15000-20000 range...

So -- something happens at Duke -- and those guys simply don't go on to the kinds of long, successful NBA careers as similar guys from other schools. And obviously the Duke people are aware of it and very sensitive to the fact, trying just about anything in their power to deflect the argument and spin it in any way they can.



The local coverage of the upcoming BU game at Duke has really been extensive -- stories every day since Monday for a Wednesday game?? Is this the reason we had no pregame coverage on Saturday's Utah game?? They were busy working on Duke coverage and ignored the Utah pregame coverage?
Or did the comments about the dearth of pregame coverage for Saturday's game force their hand, and ended up getting better reults this time?
Hmm...food for thought......as just maybe the fans spoke and were heard.



Did you see this???
Northern Iowa played at Iowa and got humbled 51-39.
UNI was 6-30 from behind the arc -- settling for launching long 3-pointers on 55% of all their shot attempts, hitting only 20%....and as has been the case, they got virtually no help from their bench.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201012070276

But even funnier -- this guy compares Iowa beating UNI to beating DUKE!!!
http://www.dailyiowan.com/2010/12/08/Sports/20411.html

Last night ex-Brave Darian Norris had a nice game, 14 pts, 6 rebounds, 5 assists!

Also -- Ex-BU commit Dwight Buycks at Marquette sat out their game last night (a big win over Texas A&M-CC) and did not play. There were a few mentions of a "nagging ankle injury", but there are also some rumbles of some kind of other issues with Buycks being benched.

Ex-Saluki commit Drew Barham -- who bolted from SIU to walk on at Memphis -- at first was getting some playing time as he was reportedly a good shooter in all their practices..
but he has never demonstrated same in games..hitting only around 10% once the clock starts...
Now he's getting no more than a minute per game and I have to think he's regretting his decision.



Did anyone else see the news recently -- that our government did something yesterday that's kinda notable...
First, there was a compromise so taxes don't skyrocket on people during tough times....thus forcing the goverment to look for solutions like cutting spending rather than grabbing more of people's hard earned cash.

Oddly some, like sleazy crook Charlie Rangel, is upset because he thinks the only hope for balancing the budget is taxing the heck out of good wage earners...but we all know how seriously HE considers his obligations to pay taxes!!
he's atax cheat and avoids paying taxes thru both legal and illegal means!
Like I should listen to Charlie Rangel on paying taxes??

Most of us feel we know better how to "distribute" our own hard-earned money than the government does, although many in Washington don't agree and feel they still know better how to spend your money.
But, in the process, the Prez broke one promise that he stated and reiterated more often than any promise for the past three years since he decided he wanted to run for president...
He had promised to raise taxes on those over $200K (then changing it to $250K) and was interested in trying to pay off his follies and spending on the backs of those who generate the revenue in the economy and who are, in large part, those who hire and create jobs.

But, then this will backfire on the employment numbers, and here's why. The compromise was that "jobless benefits" will be extended for more than a year.
This means the federal government will take the money via taxation from those who do work, and give it to those who DO NOT WORK.

In many cases it'll lessen the desire that some have to try to find work.
Let's face it, if you pay people for NOT WORKING, then just maybe SOME OF THEM won't look so hard for a job and surely they won't extend their own effots and enterprise to start up any new businesses which might hire more people.
In the end, this, plus the laying off of the seasonal temporary workers that get jobs around Christmas, will most certainly HURT the unemployment figures in the coming few months...
So if unemployment figures worsen.....watch the spin and the efforts to blame the problem on....
of course..George Bush and the party that's NOT in power...