Tuesday, October 13, 2009

The Ranking Services and Bradley

It is obvious to anyone who watches, that 95% of the efforts of any of the national recruiting experts and web aites is geared towards the top level kids and the BCS schools.
I have always noted how little real attention or accuracy they devote to the smaller schools or mid-majors.

I offer as my proof several examples...

Starting with scout.com, Dave Telep's site, that is actually one of the BEST!...

Here is the profile for Bradley freshman Jake Eastman.
Note they have Jake as verballing to Indiana State, even though the only article that have says he is going to Bradley.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3226168

Here is one of the pages for Milos Knezevic, you'll note it is fairly accurate:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3896411

But-- here is a second page for a completely different kid who is actually from Georgia, but his first name is also Milos, so they have him completely mixed up with Milos Knezevic, and claim this Milos (Kluet) is also from Henderson, Nevada, Liberty High School!
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3888518

Dyricus Simms-Edwards verballed to Bradley last spring, yet scout.com still apparently does not know about it and has never updated their page for Dyricus, labelling him uncommitted still, and not even an offer or interest from Bradley!
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3937914

scout.com has never had a listing for Chris Roberts in their database, so he doesn't even exist according to them...same with Taylor Brown.
They also don't have either John Wilkins nor Sean Harris in their databases, and they still list both Dwight Buycks and Xavier Crawford as being Bradley commits.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1930459
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1565384

Andrew Warren also has never been given a listing in their database, nor have numerous other BU kids...


Rivals also has some quirky listings...

If you do a search for Dyricus, you'll find that he has two completely different listings...
one under the name Dyricus Sims-Edwards, and the other under his proper name of Dyricus Simms-Edwards.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Dyricus-Sims-Edwards-83124
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Dyricus-Simms-Edwards-78299

Neither page seems to know Dyricus has verballed to Bradley, and neither page even lists an offer from Bradley.

They do have a page for Jake Eastman, but just like scout.com, Rivals has never caught on to the fact that Jake verballed to Bradley!

Rivals does have a page for John Wilkins, but still list him as an unsigned 2008 BU recruit.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-John-Wilkins-87602

And it's probably excusable, but they also list Sean Harris as a 2008 recruit...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Sean-Harris-83599

As for Dodie, they have two completely different listings....
one listing has Dodie as a Zero-Star kid going to BU.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Dodie-Dunson-72835

The other page still lists Dodie as a 3-Star kid going to Iowa State and even has a nice picture. Funny how he was 3-Stars when going to a Big 12 school, then loses all his stars when going to Bradley!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Dodie-Dunson-34182

I like Sam Maniscalco's Rivals page, mostly because they call him "Sammy". but it is at least accurate, and gives him 3-Stars.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Sammy-Maniscalco-50542

Sammy's scout.com page only gives him 2-Stars.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2125228

Rivals does have a listing for Andrew Warren but didn't think very highly of him...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Andrew-Warren-44360


I guess it's understandable that those web services wouldn't know everything, but they sure don't make many mistakes on the BCS recruits....and it could be excusable, except that on numerous occassions, I have e mailed those guys and I know a few of our other posters have also sent messages telling them of their mistakes.
They even occasionally respond and even thank us for helping them correct the mistakes, but then they never bother to carry through and actually make the correction. So I gave up, and won't bother sending them updated info any more.
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Here's a column by FoxSports' Jeff Goodman on the nation's top shooters.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/10201916/The-country's-top-shooters-in-2009-10

There are some good shooters on that list, but there are also some pretty mediocre ones too. Many of those on the list shot 35%-39% on threes last season, which is not that great. And one can't help but notice they have a few non-BCS kids on the list but not a single MVC player.
One that surprises me is the guy at the bottom of the list, Lucca Staiger...
Staiger hit 74 3-pointers, and shot 37.5%.
There were a dozen different MVC players who shot better than that last year, and six of them are back again this year!
And Andrew Warren has a career 42% 3-pt shooting pct.
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Check out this article....
http://hoopmasters.com/article.php?aid=1255281906

it names a few coaches who were there....wonder just who the ISU guys are after...could it be they're still hounding John Wilkins??
The story mentions several Southeast Iowa kids.

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